The Mitchell Report Open Thread

Thursday, December 13, 2007


Here we go folks. There's a ton of speculation flying around, and pretty much everyone will be writing something on this as the items break. If you have a live-blog, or an open-thread I'll link you in this spot and hopefully with the videos I'll add we can piece this whole thing together by this afternoon. This should be fun....I mean Jose Canseco is AT the Press Conference!

Already rumored by ESPN and others: Roger Clemens, Andy Pettitte, Chuck Knoblauch, Miguel Tejada, Kerry Wood, Mark Prior, Albert Pujols

Around the Blogosphere:


Quotes:

"If I had known there weren't long lasting effects I probably would have taken them."- John Kruk

"As GMs we were handcuffed. What were we supposed to do? Go to a player and accuse them of using and then tell them to go out and win a game for you the next day?"- Steve Phillips

Wow Roger Cossack just called Jason Grimsley.....Jason Priestly. That's a video.

"Clemens obtained Steroid from McNamee (sp?). Bought them from him."- Jeremy Schapp

"The appendices has copies of checks from Paul LoDuca, Denny Neagle, Fernando Vina, David Segui, Miguel Tejada."- Jeremy Schapp

"Each of the 30 clubs had a player or players involved in taking illegal substances."- George Mitchell

"More than half of the players mentioned in the report are no longer playing in Major League Baseball."- George Mitchell

FULL MITCHELL REPORT VIA MLB.COM

Names Found In The Report:
Juan Gonzalez (no surprise), Rafael Palmeiro, a huge section on Miguel Tejada

Checks to trainer Radomski....


Larry Bigbie, Howie Clark, Jason Grimsley, Jerry Hairston, Glenallen Hill, Matt Herges, Mike Lansing, Paul LoDuca, Denny Neagle, Jim Parque, Adam Piatt, Dave Segui, Miguel Tejada, Mo Vaughn, Fernando Vina (Nice an ESPN Anchor!), Rondell White, Greg Zaun, Kevin Brown, Eric Gagne,


Press Conference Highlights:

Mitchell is just going through the harms of Steroid Abuse and how it relates to the Nation's youth. Good speech, but nothing juicy yet.

Our first Barry Bonds question. I'm getting bored. Can someone please ask him why there are very few Red Sox players mentioned so we can get this over with?

Mitchell says Radomski was from New York so most of the players that he named were obviously from New York.

He compares this to being Irish and reaching a peace agreement in Ireland.

"Judge me by my work. You will not find any evidence of bias or special treatment of the Red Sox or anyone else."

Around The 'Sphere:


Mitchell Report Live-Blog (Epic Carnival)
Live Blogging The George Mitchell Presser (Deadspin)
Boston Red Sox Knew About Eric Gagne's Steroid Past (Fanhouse)
Now We've Got The Names, Questions Abound (The Big Lead)

List of Names Mentioned In The Report: (Thanks To Fred M. for going putting this together)

Miguel Tejada
Roger Clemens
Lenny Dykstra
David Segui
Larry Bigbie (signed check for drugs on p. 153)
Brian Roberts
Jack Cust
Tim Laker
Josias Manzanillo
Todd Hundley
Mark Carreon
Hal Morris
Matt Franco
Rondell White (once again a signed check)
ROGER CLEMENS
ANDY PETTITTE
Chuck Knoblauch
Jason Grimsley (signed check to Radomski)
Gregg Zaun (poorly copied check)
David Justice
F.P. Santangelo (check)
Glenallen Hill (check)
Mo Vaughn (check)
Denny Neagle (check)
Ron Villone
Ryan Franklin
Chris Donnels (check)
Todd Williams
Phil Hiatt
Todd Pratt
Kevin Young
Mike Lansing (money order)
Cody McKay
Kent Mercker (check)
Adam Piatt (check)
MIGUEL TEJADA (with a check)
Jason Christiansen (check)
Mike Stanton
Stephen Randolph
Jerry Hairston Jr. (check)
Paul Lo Duca
Adam Riggs (money order)
Bart Miadich
Fernando Vina (check)
Kevin Brown (USPS slip)
Eric Gagne (USPS slip)
Mike Bell
Matt Herges (check)
Gary Bennett (check)
Jim Parque (check)
Brendan Donnelly
Chad Allen (check)
Jeff Williams (check)
Howie Clark (money order)
Nook Logan

Online sales: Rick Ankiel, Paul Byrd, Jay Gibbons, Troy Glaus, Jose Guillen, Jerry Hairston, Jr., Gary Matthews, Jr., and Scott Schoeneweis, and former players David Bell, Jose Canseco, Jason Grimsley, Darren Holmes, John Rocker, Ismael Valdez, Matt Williams, and Steve Woodard.

VIDEOS:


90210's Brandon Walsh Involved!



Al Jazeera breaks in on the Conference:

Posted by Awful Announcing- at 1:41 PM

61 Comments:

Here in Chicago, they are saying Kerry Wood, Mark Pryor & Sammy Sosa are all on the list as well...yeah, I hate the cubs!

Anonymous said...
Dec 13, 2007, 1:48:00 PM  

Albert "Winnie the" Pujols on there aswell

sophia's bush said...
Dec 13, 2007, 1:52:00 PM  

is he just going to read the list or should i not bother watching and wait for it to hit the internets

Mike Georger said...
Dec 13, 2007, 2:00:00 PM  

//Already rumored by ESPN and others: Roger Clemens, Andy Pettitte, Chuck Knoblauch, Miguel Tejada, Kerry Wood, Mark Prior, Albert Pujols//

Um, wow.

Paterno Lives! said...
Dec 13, 2007, 2:01:00 PM  

Here you go folks. The whole shebang in PDF Form.

The Mitchell Report

Dec 13, 2007, 2:02:00 PM  

can someone please read all 409 pages of this thing and give me a list? Unless I end up having to take a 7 hour shit this afternoon i'm never going to get through it all.

Paterno Lives! said...
Dec 13, 2007, 2:05:00 PM  

Love the title. It's like a college thesis.

Fred Morlan said...
Dec 13, 2007, 2:05:00 PM  

Please God let Curt Schilling be on the list!!! PLEASE!!!!

Jay said...
Dec 13, 2007, 2:07:00 PM  

I'm trying to read through it and I wish he would just list them all. I think you have to disseminate the whole thing to find the players.

Dec 13, 2007, 2:07:00 PM  

//Please God let Curt Schilling be on the list!!! PLEASE!!!!//

Quick search indicates no. Clemens is in detail though.

Paterno Lives! said...
Dec 13, 2007, 2:09:00 PM  

No Curt Schilling based on an Adobe search. Sorry.

Dec 13, 2007, 2:09:00 PM  

awful, i've found the search is the best way to get through it...check the names you want to find, i am currently searching 'cleveland' and it is a quick way to find any names that i would be worried about.

Paterno Lives! said...
Dec 13, 2007, 2:13:00 PM  

Jose Canseco, p. 90 (SHOCKING~!)
Roids found in Manny Alexander's car, Ricky Bones' locker, Alex Cabrera in the Arizona locker room, airplane of the Cleveland Indians when flying to Toronto (Juan Gonzalez mentioned by name), Marlins bullpen catcher stating he supplied roids to player but he did not cooperate with the investigation, an unnamed minor league player that was with a team in 2004, Rafael Palmeiro pissing hot, Grimsley getting busted, Ken Caminiti being observed with them, David Segui having it in his luggage. All p. 91 to 110

Larry Bigbie interviewed with Mitchell.

"In 2000 or 2001, a visiting clubhouse manager working for the Minnesota Twins
found a used syringe on top of a trash can in the visitors’ clubhouse. He brought the incident to
the attention of the Twins manager, Tom Kelly, who told him to dispose of the syringe and to be
careful doing so. Kelly confirmed the incident and said that he did not report the incident to
anyone because he felt it “wasn’t any of [his] business” and that it was the other team’s issue to
address." p. 110

"In an article in 2006, a similar story was recounted by Paxton Crawford, a pitcher
who was on the roster of the Boston Red Sox in 2000 and 2001. Crawford admitted to using
steroids and human growth hormone while with the Red Sox. He described an incident in which
syringes he had wrapped in a towel were spilled onto the floor of the Red Sox clubhouse, which
he said caused laughter among his teammates.291 Crawford declined our request for an
interview, saying that he did not “do that stuff anymore,” that he was sorry he had used those
substances in the past and that he just wanted to be left alone. In the course of this investigation,
we interviewed 23 individuals who are, or had been, affiliated with the Red Sox organization
including 6 persons who were with the Red Sox at the time of the reported events. While some
said that they had suspicions about Crawford’s use of steroids when he was a player, no one
could recall the incident that Crawford recounted in the article." p. 111

"At the end of the 2004 season, a clubhouse employee was cleaning out the Detroit
Tigers locker room when he found a black toiletry kit that was locked. He and another Tigers
employee opened the bag and found unused syringes and vials that they determined were
anabolic steroids. They did not report the incident. The employee said that he could not
remember who the bag belonged to." p.111

Fred Morlan said...
Dec 13, 2007, 2:14:00 PM  

Yeah that's what I'm doing too. Let me know who you come across.

Dec 13, 2007, 2:17:00 PM  

Anyone else listening via ESPN Radio and getting annoyed with Tirico breaking in to identify the network? He just broke in to tell me that a commercial that usually airs now will air later to not interrupt. Umm, you just interrupted it to tell me that...

Smitty Lite said...
Dec 13, 2007, 2:20:00 PM  

thought this was interesting...

"I did not include in this report the names of three players to whom Radomski said
he sold performance enhancing substances: two of them because the players had retired from
Major League Baseball by the time of the alleged sales; and one of them because the player
admitted that he had purchased and possessed the substances but denied that he had used them
and his version of events was corroborated by other credible evidence."

Hardwood Paroxysm said...
Dec 13, 2007, 2:20:00 PM  

There's a whole pile of names in the Radomski section, starting on page 197. I can't believe how many of these jokers paid for illegal substances with checks.

On a side note, does Adobe just sit around and release new versions of Reader every other day?

Anonymous said...
Dec 13, 2007, 2:21:00 PM  

I'm flipping through the copies of checks and adding names in the post. Glenallen Hill's check made me laugh.

Dec 13, 2007, 2:22:00 PM  

This guy's a Senator? I would have never believed it. Now I know why I don't know what channel C-SPAN is.

Anonymous said...
Dec 13, 2007, 2:22:00 PM  

Mentioned:

Miguel Tejada
Roger Clemens
Lenny Dykstra
David Segui
Larry Bigbie (signed check for drugs on p. 153)
Brian Roberts
Jack Cust
Tim Laker
Josias Manzanillo
Todd Hundley
Mark Carreon
Hal Morris
Matt Franco
Rondell White (once again a signed check)
ROGER CLEMENS
ANDY PETTITTE
Chuck Knoblauch
Jason Grimsley (signed check to Radomski)
Gregg Zaun (poorly copied check)
David Justice
F. P. Santangelo (check)
Glenallen Hill (check)
Mo Vaughn (check)
Denny Neagle (check)
Ron Villone
Ryan Franklin
Chris Donnels (check)
Todd Williams
Phil Hiatt
Todd Pratt
Kevin Young
Mike Lansing (money order)
Cody McKay
Kent Mercker (check)
Adam Piatt (check)
MIGUEL TEJADA (with a check)
Jason Christiansen (check)
Mike Stanton
Stephen Randolph
Jerry Hairston Jr. (check)
Paul Lo Duca
Adam Riggs (money order)
Bart Miadich
Fernando Vina (check)
Kevin Brown (USPS slip)
Eric Gagne (USPS slip)
Mike Bell
Matt Herges (check)
Gary Bennett (check)
Jim Parque (check)
Brendan Donnelly
Chad Allen (check)
Jeff Williams (check)
Howie Clark (money order)
Nook Logan

All of the above are linked to Kurt Radomski

(p. 148-230)

Phrase you'll see far too often:

"I asked him (player) to meet with me; he declined."

"Kirk,
Sorry! But for some reason they sent the check back to me.
I haven’t been able to call you back because my phone is TOAST! I have
a new # it is [Lo Duca’s phone number is listed here]. Please leave your #
again because I lost all of my phonebook with the other phone.
Thanks
Paul" - Paul Lo Duca note to his supplier

There's another note signed by Paul on Dodger Stadium letterhead to his dealer.

I'll guess Vina won't be back with ESPN.

Fred Morlan said...
Dec 13, 2007, 2:23:00 PM  

notable to me:
Chuck Knoblauch
David Justice
Matt Williams
David Bell
Paul Byrd (i actually kind of believe this guys story, i mean he used his own credit card)
Andy Pettitte
Giambi

Not that these are surprises, but interesting. I searched 'japan' and no overseas players came up, also tried to find some kind of 'world series' story but couldn't find anything good.

All in all, they had better just clean house at this point, make this thing appear to be the 'end all' and be done with it. Thats my take.

Paterno Lives! said...
Dec 13, 2007, 2:24:00 PM  

Important question:

You're buying something that's illegal. It will get you in trouble with your employer and risk your notable wealth.

WHY THE HELL DO YOU WRITE A CHECK?!??!??!?!?

Fred Morlan said...
Dec 13, 2007, 2:24:00 PM  

Online sales:

Rick Ankiel, Paul Byrd, Jay Gibbons, Troy Glaus, Jose Guillen,
Jerry Hairston, Jr., Gary Matthews, Jr., and Scott Schoeneweis, and former players David Bell,
Jose Canseco, Jason Grimsley, Darren Holmes, John Rocker, Ismael Valdez, Matt Williams, and
Steve Woodard.

Fred Morlan said...
Dec 13, 2007, 2:25:00 PM  

i love the 'travelers express money grams'....classic, you guys make millions of dollars, don't tell me most of these fools don't walk around with a wad of $100s in their pocket.

Paterno Lives! said...
Dec 13, 2007, 2:28:00 PM  

You're about to release a 2-year investigation with an unlimited budget to a nationwide audience.

Why can't you get a microphone that doesn't have a buzz in it?! This is making this even more unwatchable...

Anonymous said...
Dec 13, 2007, 2:31:00 PM  

Ha seriously Anon. The Doctor up now does not need to be speaking on National TV.

Dec 13, 2007, 2:33:00 PM  

Players not mentioned who just randomly popped in my head:

Mike Piazza
Ichiro
Ivan Rodriguez
Alex Rodriguez
Any other player with the surname Rodriguez
Albert Pujols
Luis Gonzalez
Randy Johnson
Mike Mussina
Derek Jeter
Bill Pecota
Travis Hafner

Are mentioned, but only while making negative statements about using PEDs:

Todd Zeile

It only took 25 pages for a Barry Bonds reference.

Fred Morlan said...
Dec 13, 2007, 2:33:00 PM  

John Rocker...lmfao. Of course!

I'm at work so if anyone can pass along interesting bits not in the report i'd love it...

Paterno Lives! said...
Dec 13, 2007, 2:34:00 PM  

I need to get actual work done, but there's a mention that Minnesota manager Tom Kelly was showed a used syringe in the visitor's clubhouse and told the clubhouse guy to just throw it away, saying it was "none of his business."

Fred Morlan said...
Dec 13, 2007, 2:35:00 PM  

What the hell was that voice over?

Dec 13, 2007, 2:36:00 PM  

Breaker, breaker, looks like we got us a convoooy...

Anonymous said...
Dec 13, 2007, 2:37:00 PM  

I thought that was interference on my TV -- I had to back that up to see if that really happened.

Anonymous said...
Dec 13, 2007, 2:38:00 PM  

Take a look at some of the memos on the checks. Everything from "Thanks!" to "Supplements" plus some other good ones.

Matthew said...
Dec 13, 2007, 2:40:00 PM  

Thanks George for giving us all more reasons to why baseball sucks....

Anonymous said...
Dec 13, 2007, 2:41:00 PM  

Dam, CNBC made an error, Kerry Wood, Mark Pryor, Sammy Sosa not on the list!

Are there any Red Sox on the list? (Mitchell's favorite team)

Anonymous said...
Dec 13, 2007, 2:42:00 PM  

I gotta say this - Glenallen Hill rolls with some classy checks. So classy, it should probably be spelled cheque.

Fred Morlan said...
Dec 13, 2007, 2:44:00 PM  

Anon- I don't see any major Red Sox on the list. I wish someone would ask him the question.

Dec 13, 2007, 2:47:00 PM  

Here we go!

Mitchell says Radomski was from New York so most of the players that he named were obviously from New York.

He compares this to being Irish and reaching a peace agreement in Ireland.

"Judge me by my work. You will not find any evidence of bias or special treatment of the Red Sox or anyone else."

Dec 13, 2007, 2:51:00 PM  

there are very few major anyones on this list let alone redsox.

Mike Georger said...
Dec 13, 2007, 2:52:00 PM  

but im pretty sure mo vaughn counts

Mike Georger said...
Dec 13, 2007, 2:52:00 PM  

A) What a load of wonderful crap. 'The guy we got was from New York so SCREW THE YAHNKS, GOH SAWKS EFFIN' YEAAHHHHHHHH... I asked him to meet with me; he declined'.

B) What is with this guy and comparing his work to the IRA?

Underbruin said...
Dec 13, 2007, 2:55:00 PM  

Mo Vaughn was pretty major on the first Ken Griffey Jr SNES game. FAT SLUGGERS UNITE

Fred Morlan said...
Dec 13, 2007, 2:56:00 PM  

I think the Mo Vaughn naming was when he was with the Mets. Not positive though.

Dec 13, 2007, 3:00:00 PM  

In conclusion, when in partaking with purchasing of illegal products, take the Randy Moss approach ---

"Straight cash, homie."

Dec 13, 2007, 3:06:00 PM  

Here's a question. If he was so linked in to New York....why are there so many damn Orioles named? Jason Grimsley played for like 14 different teams.

Dec 13, 2007, 3:16:00 PM  

@Underbruin- Since 1995, Senator Mitchell has been active in the Northern Ireland peace process as U.S. Special Envoy to Northern Ireland. Mitchell first led a commission that established the principles on non-violence to which all parties in Northern Ireland had to adhere and subsequently chaired the all-party peace negotiations, which led to the Belfast Peace Agreement signed on Good Friday 1998. Mitchell's personal intervention with the parties was crucial to the success of the talks.
THAT'S WHY...

Bruce said...
Dec 13, 2007, 3:21:00 PM  

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immaculata_High_School_%28New_Jersey%29#Notable_alumni

lol my roommate just told me he went to high school with jack cust in jersey, he is the school's one notable alumni
ouch

Mike Georger said...
Dec 13, 2007, 3:23:00 PM  

I'm really really sure ESPN's only focusing on the Yankees named in this


Woo hoo only Met that was even on the team as of late mentioned is Lo Duca, and well he's in Washington now! But the Yankees are jammed pack with guys from their dynasty era.

RyanMcD29 said...
Dec 13, 2007, 3:27:00 PM  

Check it out here: http://cbs.sportsline.com/

They called it "Getting Mitch Slapped"

Kind of offensive.

Brent said...
Dec 13, 2007, 3:49:00 PM  

Offensive? That's funny.

Fred Morlan said...
Dec 13, 2007, 4:03:00 PM  

OK, it is funny, but that is CBS posting it.

Brent said...
Dec 13, 2007, 4:05:00 PM  

Karl Ravich..."The commissioner will expose himself to members of the media"

HOLY SMOKES. That is something I never want to see.

Jeff said...
Dec 13, 2007, 4:27:00 PM  

I suppose that's one way to get the media to shut up about this.

Fred Morlan said...
Dec 13, 2007, 4:56:00 PM  

I cant believe glad to see that Rod Beck’s handlebar mustache was grown without any performance enhancing substances.

notorious DEK said...
Dec 13, 2007, 5:53:00 PM  

This list is incomplete with no Jeff Kent.

Anonymous said...
Dec 13, 2007, 6:01:00 PM  

I am still not convinced that Clemens sitting out the first 50 (approx) games a couple seasons ago wasn't an under the table suspension from MLB.

swany11 said...
Dec 13, 2007, 6:25:00 PM  

Well the shit finally hit the fan. I still don't really care, all I'm annoyed about is the fact I have to avoid ESPN for the next week and half so I don't get to hear this all day every day. I guess it's not a bad thing.

B-Sells said...
Dec 13, 2007, 9:54:00 PM  

I like your conspiracy theory swany. Still, I think your nuts.

Brent said...
Dec 13, 2007, 10:40:00 PM  

Brent...join the club. :)

swany11 said...
Dec 14, 2007, 6:02:00 AM  

Every picture tells a story: Bud just threw up a little in his mouth.

Anonymous said...
Dec 14, 2007, 11:42:00 AM  

Most ballplayers today are taking homeopathic hgh oral spray because it's safe, undetectable, and legal for over the counter sales. As time goes on it seems it might be considered as benign a performance enhancer as coffee, aspirin, red bull, chewing tobacco, and bubble gum.

Billy said...
Mar 13, 2009, 4:54:00 PM  

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